yet ANOTHER Misty return rumor

[nickstr]

There is another rumor which just surfaced about Misty returning to the Pokemon anime. The rumor is in the form of a possible plot for an upcoming episode which says that Gyarados has destroyed the gym and Misty has arrived in Celestic Town but ends up confessing her love for Ash. If it were not for the confession and the gym destruction parts the whole thing would be plausable.
www.pokemon-age.net/iron/index.php
There is the link and a warning, the article is in Spanish so a translator might be needed but there are several on the internet. The article can be found about halfway down the page.

[pokeria1]

Yeah, I've heard about this rumor on BMGf. I anticipated that most of the users (not you or the creator of the thread, necessarily, but some of the others like Don, Lethal Carnivine, and PDL) would use this thread as bait for me to mention my beliefs on this, and mock me. They have failed, though, since I didn't respond.

Well, anyways, the only "iffy" thing for me is the Pokeshipping thing in the episode summary. other than that, It might be a legit episode.

I mean, even the writers make stuff up about their summaries (they changed the episode title for the arrival at Veilstone City episode, and according to Bulbapedia, the recent Psyduck episode's plot was changed [originally, the plot made it seem as though someone with knowledge of Psyducks (if not Cynthia) was going to help Ash and co. solve the crisis about the roadblock, but then no such character even appeared in the episode.], and, heck, "Bye Bye Psyduck" and "Team Rocket Disbanded" are good examples of the writers lying about the plots of episodes.). And the Aussie magazine called the Fen Badge in the Croagunk episode the "Lava badge" and Pastoria "Fen City", if I recall correctly.

and anyways, I think the Gym being shut down would be plausible. I mean, really, the only thing that keeps her off the main cast is the gym, and if the Gym is shut down (which the only likely way for it to be shut down under Misty's control is if Gyarados causes an accident.), then there isn't anything stopping her from returning to the Main cast.

Besides, considering how a certain Gym Leader is leaving the Gym unattended for way too long, which is supposed to be against PIA rules and regulations (as was stated in Cerulean Blues), this scenario seems quite likely.

BTW, off topic, but 1. why hasn't the forums been active for a while, and 2. is there a reason why no one is responding to "The Birth of Misty"?

[nickstr]

I guess the forums have not been active as the members have been busy with other things as I have been lately as well. Some electrical work needed to be done around the house so I took care of that recently. A florescent lamp mounted on the ceiling was about to fail and cause a fire so that had to be repaired. And there has not been much to talk about involving Misty other than the fact that we miss her or at least I do and want to see her again. But this rumor going around has given me hope which I nearly lost because there was no official word of an appearance.

[pokeria1]

Aug 2, 2008 2:53:05 GMT -5 nickstr said:

I guess the forums have not been active as the members have been busy with other things as I have been lately as well. Some electrical work needed to be done around the house so I took care of that recently. A florescent lamp mounted on the ceiling was about to fail and cause a fire so that had to be repaired. And there has not been much to talk about involving Misty other than the fact that we miss her or at least I do and want to see her again. But this rumor going around has given me hope which I nearly lost because there was no official word of an appearance.

Ok, sounded like you had a rough time. Yeah, it's probably going to give a LOT of people hope. Also, when I mentioned how a certain Gym leader was skipping out on her duties and leaving the gym unattended (there was a closed sign on it for goodness sakes.), and putting her gym at risk, I was referring to Fantina, since, in Dawn's Early Night and the Lopunny episode, she was not at her gym at all, leaving it unattended.

Let's hope that several members return. I mean, you know, I don't want to end up having to necropost/BUMP my fanfic, since it might be against the rules.

Speaking of the Spanish Website, currently on bulbagarden, some of the members are trying to use the thread mentioning it to bait me into trying to mention my beliefs so they can try and mock me, like they always try to do, but I didn't post on there, since I could tell from Lethal Carnivine's, PDL's and maybe Don's comments that they are waiting for me to try and post to try and mock me. Obviously, it's not going to work, though.

Anyways, that's all for now.

[kasumi888]

There has been a lot of false rumors, so I'm not going to get my hopes up.

[nickstr]

Me neither that seems to be a good plan as these rumors are best taken with a grain of salt so to speak. Even if this is not true there are always the back episodes which unfortunately we must either pirate or buy DVDs of because Cartoon Network is being a prick and not airing the episodes much anymore.

[ajnrules]

Fantina's absence was part of the game, so what are you going to do? Giovanni left his gym alone for a long time too.

Anyways, I'm eager to see what Misty's outfit would be in Sinnoh, but not for Pokeshipping.

I'm sure Misty is a very responsible gym leader, and I doubt she'll let anything get out of control. I have confidence in her.

[pokeria1]

Aug 12, 2008 0:21:54 GMT -5 ajnrules said:

Fantina's absence was part of the game, so what are you going to do? Giovanni left his gym alone for a long time too.

Anyways, I'm eager to see what Misty's outfit would be in Sinnoh, but not for Pokeshipping.

I'm sure Misty is a very responsible gym leader, and I doubt she'll let anything get out of control. I have confidence in her.

Umm, actually, Fantina was definitely at Hearthrome Gym (when you try to go to the Hearthome contest hall after arriving at Hearthome city for the first time, she walks out and you direct her back to the gym, then when you ask to challenge her, she declines, saying that "You're not strong enough".). It's actually in the Anime where she wasn't even present at the gym (instead, she leaves a note saying she's out and don't look for her), which, as far as I'm concerned, is the EXACT same thing as The Cerulean Sisters leaving the Cerulean Gym to go on a cruise.

as for Giovanni... Hmm, I'm not entirely sure, though. I mean, he could have contacted JJM/BC at his gym sometime before "Battle of the Badge" in some sort of secret bunker in the gym (we definitely know he has a secret bunker for Mewtwo, since we saw it in a secret room behind his desk. As for afterwards, ONE. The gym was completely destroyed to rebuild the gym, and it needed at least 3 years (or something close to "years", considering how they can't seem to age.). TWO. Most likely Giovanni was evicted from his gym after the events of Battle of the Badge.

Maybe Misty was a responsible gym leader, but then again, Brock was supposed to be a responsible gym leader as well, and that never really stopped him from giving the Gym rights to his father (and eventually, Forrest after the whole "Rock/Water gym fiasco" that developed.), which even AFTERWARDS, there were still hints that the Gym was not in good condition (for instance throughout the entire gym arena, there's who knows how much amounts of graffiti covering it in "Grating Spaces".), and yet Brock, despite running the gym for, oh, I don't know, FIVE WHOLE YEARS, is not even getting the hint that only he can manage order. Actually, now that I think about it, I'm actually quite surprised that the PIA didn't shut down HIS gym considering how it's almost becoming the same kind of Gym Cerulean gym was before Misty ran it (and considering the fact that Cerulean Gym was almost shut down because of poor conditions, that's saying a LOT, if you ask me).

However, sometimes unforseeable circumstances can get a Gym leader evicted even if he/she tried to not allow it to happen. For example, if her Gyarados was taunted by an enemy, despite Misty's attempts to calm it down, Gyarados goes Beserk and demolishes the gym, so she get's evicted even though she tried to quell the disaster before things got worse.

As for outfits, I think I'll have interest in it, and, like you, It's also isn't for pokeshipping reasons either.

P.S. Off Topic, but, when are you guys planning to review my fanfic. I'm sorry if I must ask, but I had to bump my posts just to get it beyond the deadline (it takes a month for a thread to live.) because no one was responding since May.

[ajnrules]

Perhaps the Pewter City Gym was able to get under the inspections because Brock was such a responsible trainer, while Misty's sisters didn't seem to give a darn about being gym leaders. Having more water shows than gym leader battles is probably something that would put it higher on the PIA's Target List.

[pokeria1]

Aug 12, 2008 20:16:08 GMT -5 ajnrules said:

Perhaps the Pewter City Gym was able to get under the inspections because Brock was such a responsible trainer, while Misty's sisters didn't seem to give a darn about being gym leaders. Having more water shows than gym leader battles is probably something that would put it higher on the PIA's Target List.

Look, no offense, but I was sort of referring to "A family that battles together, stays together) since that was when the Gym nearly fell apart. I also know that the Lola thing had to have been a bit before the PIA inspection since Cerulean Gym was the last gym inspected in the kanto region (which means they HAD to have inspected Pewter Gym before Cerulean at some point or another). Besides, Flint seemed to spend most of his time at the Rock stands (something Brock chided him for), and Lola was probably moreorless a hobbyist (meaning, she was just about AS serious about the Gym Leader business as Misty's sisters were.). And anyways, Forrest apparantly wasn't really following his responsibilities as gym leader since, in Grating Spaces, it was Ash and Brock who ended up facing JJM (granted, the rockets were disguised, but still), and I don't think he was even mentioned to have battled them (then again, since I only read an episode summary on it, I might be mistaken). Also, just what WAS with that graffiti?! I mean, the mere fact that the gym HAS this amount of graffiti shows it's not being well maintained. Sorry for mentioning this, but its something that's been bothering me for quite a while. Still, let's wait until about two weeks afterwards to see what DP094 is all about (Heck, if it mentions Misty in it, there's a good chance that Misty is reappearing, possibly back to the Main cast, not to mention. And maybe the Spanish fansite may be right after all.). anyways, that's all for now.

[nickstr]

I doubt that Misty will ever be a main cast member ever again no matter what happens but then again there could be a chance but the odds are very low. And even then I am willing to bet that the majority of Misty's fan base does not even watch the anime anymore. At least many of those I know of from various forums and Youtube don't but this is not everyone. It also seems as though a small minority of Misty's fan base watches the anime as it currently exists as I only know of one or two people who fall in that group. This can be figured as some members of the fan base I mentioned before feel as though their opinions are being ignored so they ignore the anime because of this.

[pokeria1]

Considering how just last week, we got the summary about episode 93 of DP, I'm a bit surprised that the summary/title for DP094 hasn't been unveiled yet.

Anyways, speaking of DP093, I hope that they offer a VERY GOOD explaination as to why Fantina was absent from her gym (because she could have gotten fired as a result of her actions, not to mention had Hearthome gym being wiped off of the map by the PIA.). her being a coordinator certainly wasn't an excuse, at least IMO, since some other gym leaders skipped out of gym duty for apparantly important reasons, and if their gyms weren't shut down, then they were most certainly fired from the job.) Heck, if right after Ash challenges her and wins the Relic Badge, she gets fired and Hearthome gym gets shut down by the PIA, I'd probably LOL.

[nickstr]

Well, for those who got their hopes up over this there is bad news it looks like the rumor is not true at all especially since the summary for the episodes where this was going to happen was released. It seems as though the writers in Japan want to forget that the series existed before 2002 and that Misty never acquired a massive and loyal worldwide fan base of which many members are getting desperate and some will do almost anything just to see her back for even a couple of episodes. They gave the May fans what they wanted WHY NOT US.

[pokeria1]

Sept 10, 2008 2:41:35 GMT -5 nickstr said:

Well, for those who got their hopes up over this there is bad news it looks like the rumor is not true at all especially since the summary for the episodes where this was going to happen was released. It seems as though the writers in Japan want to forget that the series existed before 2002 and that Misty never acquired a massive and loyal worldwide fan base of which many members are getting desperate and some will do almost anything just to see her back for even a couple of episodes. They gave the May fans what they wanted WHY NOT US.

Not to mention they gave what the Brock fans what they wanted back in the Orange Islands. I mean, if they truly didn't care about the fanbase, then, even IF they didn't think Brock was a racist stereotype, they still wouldn't have brought him back.

Also, this was the exact reason why I think that the boycott is the only way to listen to us. Since they can't heed our warnings in a diplomatic fashion, and even toy with us, we HAVE to boycott the franchise, and organize as many people as possible to do this!

Think about how the boycott to britian worked out. America, which was only... I don't know, 10,000 people at the time (it was only the 13 colonies at that point.), and yet, when Britain, which, at the time of it's domination over the seas, almost a global empire, got wind of our boycotting products from them, they FEARED it, trying to instill even more stricter policies, thus resulting us in going to war with them when they won't accept our requests diplomatically, until we finally won the Revolution.

Now, take the boycott to the Pokemon Company HQs to Japan, only, instead of 10,000 people, make it almost the entire globe. (We won't have to worry about stricter policies and a war with Japan since, unlike most of the British-made items, the Pokemon Company =/= the Japanese Government, meaning, the Japanese Government won't give a care about one of their companies being boycotted since it isn't controlled by the Pokemon Company, or any company for that matter. 1750s britain, on the other hand, their Government, along with their king, was almost completely dependent on the Honourable East India Company, along with other companies created to bring wealth to the monarchy. ), It shouldn't be hard to pull off, I mean, we just need to state the reasons why Misty must return, make videos promoting for Misty to return (like I have. Speaking of which, I finished the first part finally, it's on youtube at this address: www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0OowSxgEcE Sorry it took so long to actually post it, but I was waiting until the Fanfic was finished, and since I fear that if I post any other thing, that they won't notice the Fanfic, I just couldn't do anything about it.), mention these things in your school, your neighborhood, your local anime convention, your mall, whatever. In fact, I was wondering, if you had already done a petition to bring Misty back, how many people did you get to sign.

Anyways, that's all for now.

[oldpokeshipper]

Ok, guys, this is escalating into a boiling argument. I'll tell ya exacly how the things work out nowadays.

So, Misty is away, she was swept off from the anime. Why? we will never know for sure. Dark times have erupted for pokeshipping, with pearlshipping now gaining on strenght. I too, doubt that Misty will come back, and many pokeshippers and fans alike feel the same way. There is simply no need for the writers to bring Misty back. She is not a neccesary character, after all it is Ash Ketchum who is the MAIN character and who travels around as the main guy, just like in the games. How the anime is gonna go on like this, and for how long, we don't know. What we do know is that it POSSIBLY could go on till the writers kick the bucket and that's a looooong time. We're talking about decades in such cases. After all, the anime has only been around for 11 years.
The Simpsons are 2 times as old for example. So, we might as well be in our 40s before anything happens at all in that matter. But since the pokemon anime became a part of my soul, I don't mind as long as Ash and Misty confess during my lifetime. I am just worried by the direction the anime is heading to. Though, I am probably the remaining 2% that still watch it in hope...

in hope she would return...