Pokeshipping Hints what aren't Pokeshipping Hints

[Waterlil7]

Anyone who strongly disagrees with me can kill me if they must XD

This only came to me when I got up but you know the songs like Misty's Song, He drives me crazy, Under the Mistletoe etc are Pokeshipping Hints (or something like that). Well they aren't. Here is why.

Misty's Song
In the song, she is sing about some guy she likes/loves and she wants to tell him that she loves him. Everyone thinks she is singing about Ash. She doesn't say his name, for all we know she could be singing about Brock XD Ash was just there when she was singing and woke up at the end. It doesn't mean she was singing about him.

He Drives Me Crazy
In this song, she IS singing about Ash. But how do now if it is Pokeshipping, I know it says "So why do I worry about him, why do I care" but I worry but my friends, Matt and James. Anyway back to the subject she could be singing it at a friend point of view.

Under The Mistletoe
I can't lie about this one, this song IS about Pokeshipping, well I think it is and I'm not much of a Pokeshipper as I use to be. But as I put to major songs about Pokeshipping felt like I should put this one in as well. There is one line "I hoping that I meet someone under the mistletoe" what Misty sings but she didn't say Ash.

All songs sung by Misty or Ash what is about Pokeshipping
They are all American. I have nothing against Americans or the songs but Pokemon is a Japanese game, manga and anime, and none of the songs I've listed are Japanese. They are American, so that is why I think they aren't hints.

[theshadowblackkat]

Oh my 0_o

[mistylover19967]

Okay here are mine:
Gotta Catch Ya Later![/u]
Misty goes away from Ash and it CLEARLY states that she HAS a crush on the Ashy-boy.

[Waterlil7]

That's my fav pokeshipping hint

[mistylover19967]

Yup.

This one other
The Tower OF Terror[/u]
Misty cries when Ash was "dead" and when he lived she blushed.

[Waterlil7]

mistylover19967 said:

Okay here are mine:
Gotta Catch Ya Later!

[/u]
Misty goes away from Ash and it CLEARLY states that she HAS a crush on the Ashy-boy. [/quote]

mistylover19967 said:

Yup.

This one other
The Tower OF Terror

[/u]
Misty cries when Ash was "dead" and when he lived she blushed. [/quote]
um... those are Pokeshipping hints. This thread is about hints what are fake. And there is a few out there.

I found another one.

In A Date With Delcatty where that Gregorio asked her out and she was shocked about it. Casey asks Misty if she likes that sort of stuff. Then good old Psyduck comes out of his pokeball and starts laughing. Misty with a big blush on her face shouts at Psyduck and tells him to return. Everyone thinks this is a Pokeshipping hint but it doesn't say any name of the boys she meet. She could be blushing because of Gregorio.

[Chibi]

admin said:

Anyone who strongly disagrees with me can kill me if they must XD

This only came to me when I got up but you know the songs like Misty's Song, He drives me crazy, Under the Mistletoe etc are Pokeshipping Hints (or something like that). Well they aren't. Here is why.

Misty's Song
In the song, she is sing about some guy she likes/loves and she wants to tell him that she loves him. Everyone thinks she is singing about Ash. She doesn't say his name, for all we know she could be singing about Brock XD Ash was just there when she was singing and woke up at the end. It doesn't mean she was singing about him.

Maybe so, but I don't believe your logic. XD After all, the preludes and epiludes (not a word, I think, but it works) to the song strongly suggest the content of language between Misty and ASH.

"Good night Brock, 'night Ash. . . SWEET DREAMS." You could insert the ["to you, only."] there, and yes, it IS an assumption, but english producers put that there so that we can assume the obvious, and that is that she was very soft-toned when speaking to Ash, she had a reason to say the things she did to Ash, the way she said them, and - thus - the song. And Ash waking up at the end only concluded more of the assumed evidence. If it had been Brock that she was singing to why was she so frantic about Ash going back to sleep and ignoring her words? AAML shippers have thought so for ages (and it's voiced in the series, too) that some of the actual characters are fans of certain ships. This also helps us conclude that she probably wouldn't have been so nervous had she been singing to one person and another (who knew her feelings for that other person) had woken up to it, because she knew she could confide in this third-wheel. Because it was Ash who woke up - not Brock - and because she freaked to get him to sleep, then why can't we consider the possibility of what makes the most sense?

He Drives Me Crazy
In this song, she IS singing about Ash. But how do now if it is Pokeshipping, I know it says "So why do I worry about him, why do I care" but I worry but my friends, Matt and James. Anyway back to the subject she could be singing it at a friend point of view.

I'll be honest, too. If I had to guess, I'd say this song would take place far before Misty's song did in the series. And we can definitely tell she sings to - or about - Ash in this one, since she says his name, right? ^^ So that's one thing cleared up. As for obvious hintage, maybe that's not the point. I think the point is to show the progress of Ash and Misty's relationship. In my opinion, I'd say this track takes place in mid to late Kanto, maybe even sooner; you know, when they're friendship is just starting out, and Misty's just coming to terms with the fact that this boy is somewhat important (not just to her, but in general). That's why she wonders how she could possibly care. It baffles her. She wants to reconsider her sanity, I'm sure, because she doesn't think there's any way she could think positively about the little idiot who destroyed her bike, but she ends up doing it anyway.

So, yea, the progress. Misty has gone from hating this boy to mistrusting him, to finding something in him that she considers hard to find in most people, to liking him, to really CARING about him, to like-liking him. XD My opinion.

Under The Mistletoe
I can't lie about this one, this song IS about Pokeshipping, well I think it is and I'm not much of a Pokeshipper as I use to be. But as I put to major songs about Pokeshipping felt like I should put this one in as well. There is one line "I hoping that I meet someone under the mistletoe" what Misty sings but she didn't say Ash.

Oh, do you REALLY wanna go there? XD Well, lemme say it first; I don't really care for this song. Other than the bridge, where Ash sings chorus and Misty harmonizes and it sounds really well in-tune, the lyrics aren't that great, the message is cliched and displayed obviously and horribly, etc., etc. And so here we go with the analysis. How can this song not be about Pokeshipping? The singers are Ash and Misty. And I'm not saying people who act out Ash and Misty for the sake of the song (like Misty's other songs), but Racheal Lillis and Veronica Taylor. Pikachu might be in there a bit, but c'mon; is Misty gonna sing a love song to him? XD So, yea, the song. It's only those two singing, and Misty makes it quite obvious, at least twice in the song, to Ash, that they're both caught under the mistletoe. She admits to herself it's a special evening, a special feeling (Ash does the same thing), and even though Ash flips out and lands face-first in the banquet table, the point is that there's an effort to make the feelings known. The first line on Ash's behalf is somewhat telling, especially for him; the fact that Misty's the reciprocative musical artist in this number means something, IMO. . .


Under The Mistletoe
I can't lie about this one, this song IS about Pokeshipping, well I think it is and I'm not much of a Pokeshipper as I use to be. But as I put to major songs about Pokeshipping felt like I should put this one in as well. There is one line "I hoping that I meet someone under the mistletoe" what Misty sings but she didn't say Ash.

All songs sung by Misty or Ash what is about Pokeshipping
They are all American. I have nothing against Americans or the songs but Pokemon is a Japanese game, manga and anime, and none of the songs I've listed are Japanese. They are American, so that is why I think they aren't hints.

Again, I ask you quite sincerely, do you really wanna go here? XD 'Cause I will; I've argued this at least three times. Yes, Ash and Misty are subbed characters thanks to a poor english dub where certain things are banned because it aired on a childs' cartoon network, during the whee hours of the morning. Yes, the dubs also announced in obvious voice about like and love and special someone's and "I won't leave you's" and who knows what else that wasn't so VERY obvious in the original anime. But we've been there before. In more appropriately dubbed anime, like Sailor Moon (to a degree, let's go with this), Usagi and Momaru's relationship is marked to a 't' with insults and shoe throwing and raspberries and etc. This also fits Ash and Misty, a.k.a., Satoshi and Kasumi's physical relationship.

They meet, Kasumi smacks Satoshi for his idiocy in almost killing his first Pokemon partner. At the center, insult upon insult, apology upon apology, trip upon fall, and another slap from Kasu-chan to get her point across. There's screaming, malleting, etc. . . . but then they settle down and get into the beat of things and we start seeing the types of hints that suit subtle japanese love affairs; tears, subtle blushes, secret smiles just for them, laughs between the two (in other words, those that Brock wasn't a part of), and then the denial and embarrassment when third parties tried to convince them that they were oh-so perfect for each other.

Poor dubs are one thing but actions that are visible in both the english and ORIGINAL japanese seasons count for something, don't they?

In A Date With Delcatty where that Gregorio asked her out and she was shocked about it. Casey asks Misty if she likes that sort of stuff. Then good old Psyduck comes out of his pokeball and starts laughing. Misty with a big blush on her face shouts at Psyduck and tells him to return. Everyone thinks this is a Pokeshipping hint but it doesn't say any name of the boys she meet. She could be blushing because of Gregorio.

Hn; well, I never actually saw that episode, but I have to ask. If AAML shippers can't say that it means something for their ship, then how come Orangeshippers can say that it means something for theirs? We AAML shippers have years of obviousness under our belts, while Orangeshippers have about three years of "you two are cool together" (in other words, support of the AAML fandom) from Tracey, and then this awkwardly new season where Misty and Ash are separated and Tracey is running about, and it's suddenly supposed to mean this and that and EVERYTHING to us. . . It's the same thing with that mermaid hint, the one Daisy cooked up in her head. That made no sense in itself, because years ago, originally, she was an AAML shipper, too, and no, for the pleasure of profit and who knows what, she thinks that she can sell a relationship between her younger sibling and Tracey. . . ? That makes it all stranger. . .

[Waterlil7]

I found another one Misty's Goodbye. This isn't in the Japanese version (Click HERE to watch)
It is in every over dubbed version of Pokemon but it in the Japanese version, which came first.

[mistylover19967]

In the new D/P ep: Bouysel! The Road To Strength, Ash uses the Misty lure again to catch the Pokemon with.
However Dawn impulsively tries to grab it from him, and Ash reacts harshly by trying to prevent her from taking it from him. Apparently after a struggle with Buizel, Ash picks up the lure from the ground to make sure its ok.
Opinion- Ash is probably cherishing it as a remembrance to Misty.

[ajnrules]

haha. That's pretty awesome. I thought they had lost it with the Gyarados in The Legend of Dratini.

[oldpokeshipper]

ok, I have been inactive for a few months I know yes... BUT this debate just boiled my blood to the point where it is about to explode. You guys have gone mad, some of you state that AaML songs like the famous Misty's Song are no proofs... well, I'll tell ya something. Pokeshipping is made up of roughly 50% of ALL pokemon fans out there. We have more hints than all other shippings altogether, 1 episode with Ash and Misty equals to an entire series of Ash and May or Dawn.... So, please cut the mustard, and be realistic, AaML cannot be overthrown just like that *snaps*. Other shippings- like Palletshipping can be, yes.

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[ca2010]

Dude are you serious??? Misty's song is about Ash. She says at the end of the song before Ash wakes up, "I love you." Its clear. Seriously hahaha people need to stop doubting how these two feel about each other. In the song Under The Mistletoe Misty is talking about Ash. Seriously who else would she want to meet under the mistletoe? Brock? Hahaha what a joke. Come on people. The creators of Pokemon aren't going to disappoint their fans at the end of the series. I bet the between the end of the series Misty or Ash will confess their love. It will be so cute!! Dawn, May and all the other girls mean nothing to Ash. He never shows as much interest in them as he does in Misty. I can't wait until Misty comes back. Dawn is so annoying.

[oldpokeshipper]

May 31, 2010 1:07:45 GMT -5 ca2010 said:

Dude are you serious??? Misty's song is about Ash. She says at the end of the song before Ash wakes up, "I love you." Its clear. Seriously hahaha people need to stop doubting how these two feel about each other. In the song Under The Mistletoe Misty is talking about Ash. Seriously who else would she want to meet under the mistletoe? Brock? Hahaha what a joke. Come on people. The creators of Pokemon aren't going to disappoint their fans at the end of the series. I bet the between the end of the series Misty or Ash will confess their love. It will be so cute!! Dawn, May and all the other girls mean nothing to Ash. He never shows as much interest in them as he does in Misty. I can't wait until Misty comes back. Dawn is so annoying.

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[Chibi]

Edit: So... it seems I already responded to this. It has been awhile. Consider what I wrote below a revamp of my original reply.

Feb 19, 2007 11:58:09 GMT -5 Waterlil7 said:

Misty's Song
In the song, she is sing about some guy she likes/loves and she wants to tell him that she loves him. Everyone thinks she is singing about Ash. She doesn't say his name, for all we know she could be singing about Brock XD Ash was just there when she was singing and woke up at the end. It doesn't mean she was singing about him.

You're right, of course. This song isn't necessarily Pokeshipping... but there's a reason why so many fans have interpretted it as such. It is highly implied by action in both the japanese and english versions of the show that at least Misty (or Kasumi) has feelings for Ash (Satoshi).

He Drives Me Crazy
In this song, she IS singing about Ash. But how do now if it is Pokeshipping, I know it says "So why do I worry about him, why do I care" but I worry but my friends, Matt and James. Anyway back to the subject she could be singing it at a friend point of view.

You're right about this one too. However I have had a certain opinion on all of these songs for awhile and will explain further below.

Under The Mistletoe
I can't lie about this one, this song IS about Pokeshipping, well I think it is and I'm not much of a Pokeshipper as I use to be. But as I put to major songs about Pokeshipping felt like I should put this one in as well. There is one line "I hoping that I meet someone under the mistletoe" what Misty sings but she didn't say Ash.

Kind of getting tired of saying it but there's a reason why these songs were made, and why the vast majority of fans perceived what they did from them.

All songs sung by Misty or Ash what is about Pokeshipping
They are all American. I have nothing against Americans or the songs but Pokemon is a Japanese game, manga and anime, and none of the songs I've listed are Japanese. They are American, so that is why I think they aren't hints.

Firstly, as stated under "Misty's Song", both versions of the anime feature active hints from Misty to Ash, at least. Secondly, if english dubbed songs turn you off then remember "Toi et Moi (You and Me)" from the japanese version of the 2nd movie. It is, admittedly, as open-minded as the english songs... but so much of the fanbase screams "Ash and Misty love!" because of it so there must be a reason.

The songs are a cash cow, I think. PokeTV and Nintendo and all of them wanted to create a fanbase that suited all. The fans that weren't taken in by bad puns or childish morals and action would be taken in by the budding romance between the two leading human characters.

Well, at least I think so.

Still songs are not the REASON for the fanbase, just one or two hints added to a long list that has only continued to grow. Remain open-minded or else you'll never be able to believe in anything based on faith and perception.